Curse

Loviatar · Apr 29, 2007, 04:51 PM // 16:51

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Originally Posted by Bryant Again

The post just said that they were bored, not that they're leaving.

if they are bored and still playing that is their problem not ours having to listen to the whine.

@ZINGER

having never tried WOW your post confuses me.

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I had originally left Guild Wars for World of Warcraft several months ago, as I was bored then. Since that didn't go over so well (I was unable to start on an established server...and they haven't release any new servers)

from that it sounds as though there is a waiting list to be able to join a server and play the game.

please clarify as i am curious on this odd sounding point.

Kas · Apr 29, 2007, 04:57 PM // 16:57

There is a waiting queue to login. A queue that can go be quite immense during times.

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Despite, please visit Discussion School 101. Seems like you missed the one were the explained why another opinion doesn't automatically equal to whining.

beanerman_99 · Apr 29, 2007, 04:58 PM // 16:58

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Originally Posted by jammerpa

Taking little breaks here and there does help but the bottom line is... when the game just doesnt offer you anymore entertainment then it's time to either wait for an expansion/new chapter or find another game to play.

Most important statement of this whole thread. Whether or not I like or dislike Hard Mode is irrelevant. I think that anyone playing any game as many hours as we do will eventually suffer from BURN OUT! It happened to me when I played Diablo 2. It happened when I played Halo. It just happens.

I can (and I am sure others here do as well) get pretty obsessive about a game and trying to do everything, see everything, get everything as soon as possible. That leads to many many hours playing for days on end. Eventually you will get sick of it. Its taken you (and me) 2 full years to get there, but it has finally caught up to you. Sure, you can start a new character or do this or that or blah blah blah...but the game you play in essentially the same so really your not doing anything new.

Do what I do and take breaks. Not just for a day. I am talking breaks that last several weeks. Watch the forums and come back for special events and what not. I think you will find that if you take breaks and play in moderation you will enjoy the game much much better.

Good luck and try to have fun.

Effendi Westland · Apr 29, 2007, 05:01 PM // 17:01

Hard mode is a gimmick - Yes but nowhere near what DoA is. I've done alot of hardmode missions so far, all on my mesmer, and have always found that I can contribute alot to a party. In DoA I can only contribute if I take the most overpowered pve skill in the game and build around that. That you need mostly human players is good imo, though indeed in the 8 player areas the players are a little thin, but isn't that what guilds and friendslists are for? I am sure you can find other dedicated Hardmode players if you look.

Assist other thru normal mode - If you enjoy doing that, why not? I don't, I help guildies and friends when I'm free, but I don't go looking for this.

Start another character - You've tried starting an ele and got a ritualist and ranger. Well, If you want to compare to the power of an SS necromancer, the ele would come closest, but needs skills from all over the place. With well placed aggro Ele's even outdamage SS necromancers because of the added shutdown from MS (the DoA way). An ele also makes excellent support and therefor a welcome addition to any hardmode party for instance. And if anything is truely difficult there is always place for an ele, whereas as soon as a second necromancer comes round he is doomed to BiP, look at DoA, The Deep and Tombs (before B/P). Someone else already mentioned that playing a warrior plays entirely different and it does. A warrior typically makes or break a party and is naturally looked apon to lead a party. I won't try to make you play a mesmer, it only suits those who do not care for direct power but want to supplement a party as best as they. With the lesser powerful elites and powerful skills if used wisely it is doable for a mesmer to take a cross-profession elite. Assassins are a joy to play, and add alot if played well. Paragon is nerfed, but still builds exist that will make everything just this bit easier, not the most exciting builds though. Wouldnt recommend dervish until you tried a warrior and stay away from monking.

I don't think individual effect is minimised. When I look at it from my view of grouping for a tough mission the following professions are the most wanted and the one player skill matters most.

1 - Tank - He is key. He needs to either have done it before or he needs to be able to listen very well. Titles on tanks (triple prot, explorer, skillhunter) impress me and make me take them over other players.

2 - Elementalist - I need nuking, but I need it rightly applied. Yes nice meteor shower on the melee, but now they will break aggro and the monk there will heal them anyways. No don't attack the next group, let the tank take aggro. Wtf firestorm. You get the idea.

Then if it is not DoA.
3 - Support - Barrage ranger with distracting shot/savage shot/dust trap, Domination mesmer, illusion mesmer, paragon, ritualist. The people who play these roles I will have to know, or I'll play it myself. If not able to bring one, I'll bring an extra nuker.

And lastly, monks and necros. I'll admit that SS is overpowered, but that basically leads to a very one-dimensional class. Necros are a dime a dozen. Every one of them has a SS skillbar and has played it before. C + space + Reckles haste + SS = gg half of the time, the other half you casted SS on a caster, but most figure out we want other targets after some encouragement. For Hard Mode Minion masters are nice, but from building a party point of view no concern, a Hero does it just as well, for the other stuff minion masters are too weak. Monks are also plenty, though you need real ones for Hardmode and elite stuff, they are typically widely available.

Farm for FoW - Or farm for tormented staff, a mallyx mini-pet, whatever.

PvP - Or TA for glad points

But if it doesn't suit you, it doesn't.

You've forgot:
-Master The Deep/DoA and lead other groups through there.

I would advice you to start another character. Go for ele or warrior. The experience is completely different and like I said before ele's can always get into high-end pvp groups, warriors too, but if you don't know what you are doing you will build up a bad reputation and then it will get hard to find good groups, until you show otherwise.

Mr_Cynical · Apr 29, 2007, 05:18 PM // 17:18

I love Guild Wars. But I detest Anet. How such morons could make such a brilliant game is beyond me.

My primary motivation for picking a game other than GW2 as my next online RPG is not because I dislike the basic concept of Guild Wars, but because (other than minor non-gameplay things like Special Events, and new campaigns which aren't maintenance but new, paid products), the last update that Anet made that improved the game (rather than spoiled some aspect of it) was Sorrow's Furnace. In 2005. The primary attraction of moving to another online RPG is that it will not be made by Anet.

Silly Warrior · Apr 29, 2007, 05:18 PM // 17:18

Well Zinger, we can't make fun happen for you, thats something you have to do for yourself. However, I will tell you a few things that have kept me from getting totally-out-of-my-mind bored:

AB: Sure, its repetitive, but with a fun group of friends on Vent it makes it a whole lot funner, and you get XP, and Faction for it. May be boring to some, and it does at times get boring to me, but its something to do.

Skill Hunter: I started up getting this title a couple weeks ago, since then I've capped over 120 skills on my Ranger. Its a great title, helps out with Cartographer, and often times guildies join in to cap, if they need the skill.

Hard Mode Farming: Although this is gotten in the past few days to be a bit more boring, I have been getting great loot from Hard Mode, especially the drops of Golds and Lockpicks. But like you said, Hard Mode was made into more than it should have been, its not that great. Too big an anticipation for something not so workwhile.

GvG: My guild GvG's on Tuesdays and Thursdays, when I'm on I join them usually, nuff said.

Hero Battles: I do this when I'm very bored....

KoaBD and PKM: Although I only have a couple titles maxed, I'm slowly getting towards both titles, and its very enjoyable. If your totally bored, try going for these, or if you want a real challenge, go for the "I'm very Important" title. Heck, at least its a decent waste of time.
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If your getting bored, play less during the day, or perhaps just take a break, eventually sometime will spark your interest, hopefully. I have been fortunate enough to have not gotten bored with this game. My secret? Play less, obsess less, take 1-2 day breaks once a week. In my opinion, you seem like the time that would think about this game all the time, which isn't that healthy...meethinks.

I just hope Anet knows what their doing. I know if I was running the show over there, we would be making Mini-Expansions to keep our customers until GW:EN, and finally GW2. Unfortunatly this simply isn't so.

But yep man, I'm slowly getting there too, I think we all are. Its just the same thing over and over again now.

ElinoraNeSangre · Apr 29, 2007, 05:22 PM // 17:22

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Originally Posted by Zinger314

*Assist others through Normal Mode Missions: I helped an Assassin through Arborstone last night. I had to fight with him to use Eve has a Henchman, as opposed to his lv. 13 Sousuke and a third Monk. And during the mission, he was drawing on the map, telling me where to go! Sadly, that was one of the lesser jerks I've met. I still have people Whispering me to help with every single mission. It's annoying. While many people have been graceful and courteous (i.e. the people who responded to my thread at Guru), many others have been rude, and therefore it isn't worthwhile.

I've considered doing this. I thought it might be fun to just find good groups and play with them. However, I tried to help a monk through Arborstone a couple of months ago myself, and he insisted on bringing his heroes which were lower than level 10. I told him no. He said that they were fine. I said they'd get us killed.

I'd expect the argument if the monk wasn't my stepson.

In my case, I just go over to his room and smack him around (figuratively). Unfortunately, there's no /bitchsmack for the rest of the internet. :P

I figure if my own family can be that annoying about missions, how much did I want to inflict on myself of the public? I'm still considering trying this out, but.... yeah.

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Originally Posted by Zinger314

And I'm 17. I can't really HA/GvG all night consistantly; Schoolwork comes first.

OT: I always pegged you for older, maybe mid-20's. You come off as older than 17 (I know it's hard to tell on the internet, but you've got that blend of cynicism and maturity both that I've come to expect from people a little older). I'm going to go get my cane now!

I don't have any easy answers for you, although this sort of the reason why I'd love to get a group of people on a thread or something that all are interested in helping people out, or going to UW, or *something* where everyone's willing to work as a team and are at least halfway competent (I don't mind lack of skill at all - I'd consider myself barely above average - but a good attitude goes a lot farther than skill IMO). A lot of what pushes me away is some of the rude people.

If you want to try something totally not like a necro, you could try a dervish or warrior. It sounds like you've alread tried a LOT of builds for your necro, too.

A guildie and I are trying out some fun farming builds, so that's what's keeping us busy right now.

Or, do what I do, and just do something else for a while when you get bored.

-kelkel

ThunderStruck · Apr 29, 2007, 05:35 PM // 17:35

Start a survivor character. I personally love the added tensity while playing. It keeps you on your toes, and nothing in the game seems as easy anymore

Neo Nugget · Apr 29, 2007, 05:46 PM // 17:46

When im bored with alot of my characters, i love to start a new character, even if its a proffession ive already played.Get new armors , get a new look. Seeing as i have 2 of alot of proffessions, i have the tendancy to create characters alot.

Or start start a presearing character, not really for the title but just for the fun of being in pre

ume kurosaki · Apr 29, 2007, 06:04 PM // 18:04

Get pokemon pearl

it's so much fun.

p.s. Come to the Masquerade ball next weekend!

Share · Apr 29, 2007, 06:13 PM // 18:13

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Originally Posted by Zinger314

*PvP: Believe it or not, I'm actually Rank 4. And I hated it. What's the point? The only point to Heroes Ascent is to get more fame. (Again, hello Sysphisus)

GvG is somewhat the same way. You can get to the top 100 on the ladder...but it doesn't matter unless you are top 32. And obviously, I couldn't accomplish either.

And I'm 17. I can't really HA/GvG all night consistantly; Schoolwork comes first.

What can I do to extend my Guild Wars life? I guess Pokemon Diamond was just released...

What's the point with anything? what's the point with life? to have fun? well isn't playing fun then? do something else instead of whining here about how it's useless.

Can't reach a goal? work harder.

sindex · Apr 29, 2007, 06:19 PM // 18:19

You know I have to say I am not really bored with GW as I have been with other games of late. I always find something useful to do. Zinger is right about one thing though (at least in my mind); why did they not release the new PvE skills out with Hard Mode? It was the one thing I thought would go “hand to hand” with Hard Mode. Only to find out A-net states “we are not quite finished with them,” and “they will be coming out soon.” Just like the whole Razah blunder that happened at the beginning of Nightfall.

I could understand if A-net was a bit more up front with us, about the problems and the solutions of what will go into these new updates. Honestly we heard nothing about what they were planning to do with that new “drop system,” all we heard about was the changes with Hard Mode. It does kind of seem that every time there will be something great added to GW, there is always a catch.

I mean I am not ungrateful for everything that has been added to GW that really has added more depth to it. They have done many things to enhance the gameplay for GW, but it has come with a cost though. Some of it is our fault and the press for gauging GW into something it’s not supposed to be. However some of it falls to A-net as well for not telling us the flip sides of things, and playing it off as being a coy business people.

Again no disrespect to the development team for they put in those long hours just to make the game more enticing. Of course my thanks can not be more astute for what you have accomplished.

Snowman · Apr 29, 2007, 06:48 PM // 18:48

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Originally Posted by sindex

It does kind of seem that every time there will be something great added to GW, there is always a catch.

I agree with your entire post, especially this comment!

Been with GW since the start... everything, I mean EVERYTHING! they have 'announced' to be coming in the game is made to seem like something its not.

And Gaile Grey (yes I even spelt her name wrong!) is the biggest con artist of them all.

there are many hundreds of words documented from anet (and Grey) which turned out to be blatent lies... oops sorry, I shouldnt say that. Grey has argued many times with us that 'technically' in the 'english language' what they said was true, and not a lie.

The biggest single con being 'Alliance battles' as they name indicates we expected to 'battles against alliances'... how sick were we all when it was revealed to be a glorified faction battle.

A-net, you suck.

Zorglubb · Apr 29, 2007, 06:53 PM // 18:53

Same impression on HM. Did Northern Wall with heroes, not hard, just grind. Vanquished Ice Floe. Not hard, just grind, and almost failed it because I had not killed the single guy that runs when you enter from Droknar (I entered from port). Didn't do anymore of HM, bored of it already. :/

Renegade26 · Apr 29, 2007, 07:02 PM // 19:02

The rewards for HM are just not enough. Experience is shit. Simple as. There is not title for experience, it only gives you Skill Points (which is so wtf in itself). And a poor amount of gold. I saw HM as a way to get money without having to farm. But its just poor...

Series · Apr 29, 2007, 07:09 PM // 19:09

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Originally Posted by Renegade26

The rewards for HM are just not enough. Experience is shit. Simple as. There is not title for experience, it only gives you Skill Points (which is so wtf in itself). And a poor amount of gold. I saw HM as a way to get money without having to farm. But its just poor...

Experience is the Roleplayer's Balthazar Faction. Great for a while... then utterly useless.

Bryant Again · Apr 29, 2007, 07:31 PM // 19:31

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Originally Posted by Loviatar

if they are bored and still playing that is their problem not ours having to listen to the whine.

What?? Someone's whining? Where is this?

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Originally Posted by Loviatar

from that it sounds as though there is a waiting list to be able to join a server and play the game.

please clarify as i am curious on this odd sounding point.

I dunno, I'm confused about that as well. For all the servers I'm playing on there has never been a log-in waiting list - unless you join a massively full server, of course, but that can be avoided. Again, I'm still unsure what Zinger means.

As for new servers, that's an idea I'm kind of against. There are quite a few "dead" server, meaning servers with maxed level players but very very few people to play with. More servers would hurt this.

Omega X · Apr 29, 2007, 07:37 PM // 19:37

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Originally Posted by Zinger314

I guess Pokemon Diamond was just released...

Go for it!

I got Diamond on the day they were released. ITs the best Pokemon game to date and makes great use of the touch screen.

Zinger314 · Apr 29, 2007, 07:39 PM // 19:39

OT: What I meant is that since the WoW expansion, it's difficult to start a character on an established server because it's hard to level and a be a part of the community when everyone is in Outland. Plus, the economy is skewed. On new servers, comminunities can build.

Bryant Again · Apr 29, 2007, 07:50 PM // 19:50

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Originally Posted by Zinger314

OT: What I meant is that since the WoW expansion, it's difficult to start a character on an established server because it's hard to level and a be a part of the community when everyone is in Outland. Plus, the economy is skewed. On new servers, comminunities can build.

(Does OT mean on-topic or off-topic?)

Well, not everyone's in Outland because not everyone is level 70 (Outland is the new endgame content in WoW, for those who don't know). I'm on Skywall, and I've always been able to find a group for any instance. Some took longer than others, though.

A little more on topic: I'm getting bored, too. I've had my fun with Fort Aspenwood and helped the Kurzicks out quite a bit. Does anyone play classical Doom, preferably Doom 2? Hit me up a PM and let's set up a co-op game!